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Showing posts with label latch. Show all posts

Replacing the Push Knob Latches with Slam Latches


Ralph Hill from the Revel Facebook group has upgraded his cabinet latches, and he detailed the technique here:



The Problem

The existing “Push Knob” latches in my early 2018 Revel do not work well:

  • Sometimes the knob will not pop out.
  • Often the drawers are a struggle to open even with the knob out.
  • The mechanism has fallen off the inside of one of mine due to stripped screws.
  • Also they take up a lot of room on the inside.


The Solution

Several friends and acquaintances strongly recommended “slam latches”. These are well known in the boating industry. They come in several sizes and from many manufacturers. I chose a small slam latch from Southco made entirely from stainless steel. They are expensive, but sometimes outlast the boats they are installed in, in a salt water environment. I used the Southco model M1-15-61-8. The Southco slam latches work much better than the original latches. I am very glad I made the change.



Special Tools Required

  • 1.5" Hole saw to make the template
  • Template following router bit and router
  • Right angle drill for drilling new holes for the keepers where needed (not enough room for a conventional drill)



Installation Challenges

Removing old trim rings

Getting the old trim rings out was difficult. They have to be pushed out from the back a little to make room to pry them out from the front. I found that cutting two slots in the bodies of the trim rings helped, but I still had some of the face material for the fronts crack off when I pull the trim ring out. Fortunately this was always within the area cut away to enlarge the hole.



Enlarging the Holes

The hole size for the slam latches I selected is 1.5”, the existing holes are 1”. The distance from the center of the hole to the tip of catch is different (by 1 to 2 mm). Fortunately this means the old hole is fully contained within the new hole. To enlarge the holes, I made a template out of 1/4” plywood with a 1.5” hole. I placed this on the front and carefully aligned side to side and 1 to 2 mm closer to the latch side. For the first one I measured this very carefully. For the rest I just did it by eye. Much faster and just as accurate by eye. I clamped the template down and cut the hole with a router using a template-following bit.


I chose not to use a hole saw for several reasons:

  • The pilot bit would have to be in the existent hole, so starting cleanly would be impossible without a drill press. I do not have a drill press.
  • Aligning the hole saw would require first aligning a template and then centering the hole saw in the template. If you have the template aligned and clamped, then the router is fast and clean.
  • I was worried about getting a clean cut on the back.


Keepers

The existing keepers will not work with the slam latches. The new keepers project more into the cabinet. Maybe an issue? The new keepers have to moved back relative to the old keepers. I had to drill new holes for the screws to hold the keepers in all three drawers and the pantry. In the overhead cabinets I was able to reuse the existing screws and holes.



BEFORE




AFTER



FINAL RESULT



Apr-14-2021

Cabinet Latch Replacement

I recently upgraded the Revel's cabinet latches with Owl Vans' metal latches. It was a little bit frustrating, since 2018 Revels have an unusual latch position, and required a special catch for the latch.  Installation instructions are online, but here are a few comments from my experience.


There are 6 latches to replace, and I spent a few hours doing the replacement and adjusting them to fit properly. As ridiculous as it sounds, I found the removal of the chrome plastic discs to be a real pain, and although I tried hard to save them intact, I ended up destroying them with brute force by the 2nd or 3rd latch.




The positioning of the 2018 latch required a CUSTOM catch mechanism for $30 from Owl, and I was kind of irritated that the screw holes did not match the previous holes from Winnebago, meaning that I had to put new holes in the cabinet frame.  Not sure why this is the case - - is it somehow bad practice to reuse the holes?

Note that the new custom catch mechanism for the 2018's extends an inch or so into the cabinet opening, unlike the Winnebago version, which was tiny & minimal.




In spite of my best efforts, these latches are not quite as tight as the originals, so I added some adhesive foam pads for any vibration that I may have introduced.


It was a bit of an expense for something that is mostly aesthetic, but they do look better (IMHO), and they definitely feel better under your hand - - higher quality, and with a more durable mechanism.



2-May-2020