Showing posts with label exhaust. Show all posts
Showing posts with label exhaust. Show all posts

Replacing the Revel Exhaust

I've always hated what Winnebago did to the exhaust system on the Revel, and was very glad to remove it. I've now got the restored, original exhaust that Mercedes ships with the Sprinter. It was about $250 in parts, and was an easy installation.



We added plenty of heat shield to protect the glycol and water lines in the area. (The heat shield is $45 from Mercedes, part number 9064913730. It requires a little modificationtowards the rear, near the water lines, you have give it a slight curve so that it fits better. Then use existing self tapping screws from the old heat shield to secure the new one.) 




No more ugly, incongruous pipe hanging down there to get smashed against rocks.



19-July-2021

Heating System Improvements

After using the heating system in our 2018 Revel for 2.5 years, there were a few improvements that we wanted to make. Since the system was designed by Rixen's Enterprises in Sandy, Oregon, we decided to have them do the work, and we drove the van to Rixen's in July, 2020. 

Our goals were the following:

  1. Replace the stock Winnebago thermostat with a modern, more accurate version;
  2. Relocate the Espar heater to the back of the battery box on the driver's side;
  3. Service the Espar heater;
  4. Replace the somewhat noisy glycol pump with a newer, quieter version;
  5. Add an engine heat exchanger so that we could drive through sub-freezing temperatures without having to use the Espar heater to keep the tanks warm.
All of this was accomplished in about 4 hours, and cost about $950.

A diagram of the heating system, compliments of Bob Fulton from the Revel group on Facebook, shows all the major components, along with the changes that we made on this trip.


The original thermostat was cheap, simple, and highly inaccurate. Rixen's have made a newer version for their system, and while it's a bit more finicky, it's also more accurate, with a 'swing' (hysteresis?) of about +/- 2 degrees.  We're generally happy with it, though it takes some light touches with its touch-sensitive interface. Also, since it's more sensitive, it cycles the furnace much more often than the old thermostat.



It was necessary to relocate the Espar furnace because Winnebago installed them high on the frame during 2018-2019, in an extremely inaccessible location. Thus, if the Espar needed maintenance or troubleshooting, it was very difficult to access. The standard location in newer Revels is to mount it on the back of the driver's side front battery cage, which is what Rixen's did for us, shown here. They also serviced the Espar, replacing the used atomizer screen for the igniter, flushed and replaced the glycol, and found that our altimeter had never been properly wired by Winnebago back in October 2017, when our van was built. We also picked up spare gaskets and atomizer screens in case we need to service the unit in the future. Here is a photo of the Espar in its new location.


Due to its new location, we rerouted the exhaust line, bringing it up higher, and putting it behind the galley window.




The original glycol pump was somewhat whiny, and I want the quietest van I can get. Rixen's newer pump is almost dead silent, and apparently has 2x the power of the previous version, so we had Rixen's install it. In the following photo, it is the blue appliance under the glycol tank. 



Finally, we added a heat exchanger from the engine to the heating system so that we can use the engine's heat instead of running the Espar. This is advantageous when driving through sub-freezing temperatures because it will keep the van's tanks from freezing WITHOUT having to run the Espar furnace. A heat exchanger is installed under the van, just below the glycol tank, and two lines (in & out) are run from the engine's coolant system back to the new exchanger. 

A view of the heat exchanger, with brass fittings, mounted up high along the frame with two lines of coolant running to it from the engine.


Here are a few photos showing the changes that are made to the cooling system under the hood.



The trick for keeping the tanks warm while driving is that the circulation pump must be running, so that is accomplished by turning on the system, setting the thermostat to some high temperature, and turning the fans off. The fans are turned off with the center setting of the fan speed switch. (Note: Bob Fulton improved this kludgey configuration by installing a proper switch - - see the Facebook group for details.)

One point of failure for the heat exchanger is a rupture in the coolant lines that run back to the exchanger, specifically where they are mounted near the engine, where they are susceptible to abrasion. One Revel owner has already found a leak from this, so care must be given to how the lines are mounted. Here is how mine were originally installed - - note the potential for abrasion from the engine lift hook.



I wrapped my lines in an extra layer of hose, and ziptied them to the engine lift hook, shown below. In this way, the extra layer absorbs the abrasion, but this remains a contact point that has to be monitored.



A better way of doing this is Bob Fulton's approach, in which he manufactured an arm to hold the lines free of the vibration. Bob says that to manufacture this arm, "It was an 1" over (part with hole drilled), then 2" up, then 4" over again."



Bob Fulton also made an excellent diagram of the heating system, along with a cheat sheet on how to use it.



Finally, meet Jim Rixen.





14-July-2020

Repositioning the Grey Water Hose

I occasionally use the grey water hose, but found that its factory-mounted location (to the right of the bumper hitch) impeded the installation of Mercedes' original exhaust system. I'm considering moving the exhaust to this spot, so I decided to move the grey water hose to the other side of the van.

The key insight is that the hangers for the hose are completely reversible, so it's easy to swap it to the left side.  

Hanger 2 is the one that has to be flipped around. This picture shows it in its original position, attached to one of the frame rails on the passenger side. There is an identical rail on the driver's side, so just flip the hanger and attach it to that rail.

The hangers are attached with self-drilling screws, so it takes some pretty good arm power to drive them into the rails, but it's doable.


28-July-2020

Heater Exhaust Repositioning

Ralph Hill, a member of the Revel Facebook group, has repositioned the the exhaust from the diesel (Espar) heater. He wrote up all the details, and I'm posting it here with his kind permission.


The exhaust from the Espar ends in front of one of the brackets supporting the running board on the driver’s side. It is very vulnerable there. It looks like a stiff bush could do serious damage to it. I have repositioned mine based on a picture I saw of a modification done by Agile Off-Road.

The final result is shown in these pictures.




The beauty of this modification is that no holes need to be drilled and no new hardware is needed. It leaves the Espar exhaust well protected. There is a possible downside. I think there may be some rule that the exhaust from the heater cannot be immediately below an operable window. This modification places the exhaust outlet below the dinette window. The original position is very slightly ahead of the dinette window. I think this makes no difference, but the rules might not see it that way.

To move the exhaust you have to drill out the rivet holding the clamp to the bracket for the running board. I drilled from the rear. Then twist off the cap on the end of the flexible exhaust pipe and slide the clamp off. At this point, part of the rivet is likely to be stuck in the clamp. I pried the clamp open a bit, cut the rivet with a hack saw, and pushed out the remains of the rivet. There might be better ways to get the rivet out. Perhaps drilling from the front might work better.

Next, you have to remove the rear bolt holding the bracket for the running board to the bottom seam of the body.  I needed a 3/8" socket on the bolt and an 11mm 12 pt box wrench on the nut. (“Huh?” you say. Well that is what I had that fit). Run the bolt through the clamp (it will fit if you press while turning). Slide the clamp back on the flexible pipe. Straighten the pipe and adjust the position of the clamp so the bolt lines up with its hole. I tried to position the clamp so that it was tilted very slightly with the bottom further forward than the top. I did this to try to help keep the flexible pipe from rattling against the bracket for the running board. When you have things in position, tighten the nut on the bolt. Turn the nut, not the bolt. If you turn the bolt you will probably twist the clamp. I did that on the first try. Adjust the pipe trying to keep it straight and away from things it might rattle against. Aim the end of the flexible pipe down and out a bit. Thread the end cap back on the pipe.

I finished by spraying all the bolts and the hole for the rivet in the bracket for the running board with a waxy corrosion inhibitor. That is the shiny yellow you see on and around the bolts.